posted by Big-S Skeptic at Wednesday, May 03, 2006
Good points. Certainly sense-peception is quite different than the matter that is its cause. However we can know some truths about the "real" physical world. The difficulty lies in the fact that it is abstract knowledge and so we can not picture it in our minds.
By The Jewish Freak, at May 10, 2006, 11:23:00 PM
I have a little bit of hope for humanities quest for knowledge. We are humble enough to realize the limitations of our sense organs. Indeed the discovery of at least one planet was made with pencil and paper, not observation.We may on occasion even be humble enough to realize the limitations of our minds. I'm hoping that humility will give us some chance at, at least, recognizing the incomprehensible, in fact we can see it all around us, right now !!
By Ben Avuyah, at May 16, 2006, 8:07:00 PM
I would never ignore Occam's razor. What do you take me for? You do, however, realize that Occam's razor is not some God-given principle, right?
By Big-S Skeptic, at Aug 9, 2006, 11:36:00 AM
Occam's razor is just a philosophical principle. While is has mathematical motivation in some guises (e.g., the "minimum description length" principle of Rissanen), in general applying such principles can be quite difficult, and contingent on various assumptions about prior distributions and such. The general problem is that not all hypotheses describe the data equally well, and it may be the case (and usually is the case) that a more complex hypothesis describes the data better than a more simple simple hypothesis. How do you apply Occam's razor in such an event? Also, the notion of "complexity" or "simplicity" is a very squirrely one that philosophers have discussed for a long time. In practice, it's rarely very clear.
By Big-S Skeptic, at Aug 14, 2006, 8:00:00 AM
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Our position vis-à-vis understanding the world is far less tenable than we would hope. To put it strongly, we can't possibly know what we think we know. But I'm not quite ready to join those who declare "Nothing can be known, let's play golf." From where we currently stand, "Nothing can be known" is scarcely distinguishable from "Something can be known." Both presuppose some coherent account of "thing" and "knowing", and so both are entirely vacuous for exactly the same reasons.
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Good points. Certainly sense-peception is quite different than the matter that is its cause. However we can know some truths about the "real" physical world. The difficulty lies in the fact that it is abstract knowledge and so we can not picture it in our minds.
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The Jewish Freak, at May 10, 2006, 11:23:00 PM
I have a little bit of hope for humanities quest for knowledge. We are humble enough to realize the limitations of our sense organs. Indeed the discovery of at least one planet was made with pencil and paper, not observation.
We may on occasion even be humble enough to realize the limitations of our minds. I'm hoping that humility will give us some chance at, at least, recognizing the incomprehensible, in fact we can see it all around us, right now !!
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Ben Avuyah, at May 16, 2006, 8:07:00 PM
I would never ignore Occam's razor. What do you take me for? You do, however, realize that Occam's razor is not some God-given principle, right?
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Big-S Skeptic, at Aug 9, 2006, 11:36:00 AM
Occam's razor is just a philosophical principle. While is has mathematical motivation in some guises (e.g., the "minimum description length" principle of Rissanen), in general applying such principles can be quite difficult, and contingent on various assumptions about prior distributions and such. The general problem is that not all hypotheses describe the data equally well, and it may be the case (and usually is the case) that a more complex hypothesis describes the data better than a more simple simple hypothesis. How do you apply Occam's razor in such an event? Also, the notion of "complexity" or "simplicity" is a very squirrely one that philosophers have discussed for a long time. In practice, it's rarely very clear.
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